you've seen us catch online predators. >> please, sir. >> men scouring the internet for sex with young teens. >> i swear on my daughter that i was just planning on coming over here to talk. >> this time our hidden cameras are in florida. >> he's in the laundry room naked, walking into the living room. >> we encounter the strangest parade of suspects we've ever seen. i'm chris hansen with "dateline nbc." >> i know. >> you know? with footage you'll have to see to believe.

you want to explain yourself? >> this is "predator raw." >> this is the fifth investigation we have done but the first one in the south. we were in the city of ft. myers in a beautiful neighborhood. big house. so it would seem kind of an unlikely place for this sort of activity on one level. but when talking to the chief of police there, he realized from hearing from parents and teachers that there was an issue in his town. we hire consultants for their expertise being decoys in the chat rooms. they really know what they're doing. and they have this down to a system. i'm always blown away by the hidden cameras. this stuff is really james bond type technology. in florida, we have a lot of cameras. something like 13. we even have one in a palm tree that could turn 360 degrees and

can zoom into the license plate on a car at the other end of the street. >> he's coming around back. he is on the steps, opening the door. he is going to come right in. watch it, emily. he's in, heading towards the kitchen. he's in the kitchen. call out. >> hey, i'm in here. >> call again, call again. >> hey, i'm about to put on my bra and panties. come on in. >> good job. he's coming around the desk, heading towards chris. >> this is the second time that we worked with emily as our on-site decoy. naturally, she was a little nervous. with that under her belt in ohio, she was much more confident in florida. how are you doing? why don't you have a seat over in that chair, please. sit down. put your hands up top so i can

see them. what are you doing here? >> just coming to meet somebody. >> who were you coming to meet? >> just a girl. >> a girl named -- >> um -- i'm not even sure what her name is. >> how old is this i'm not even sure what her name is? >> 15 or 16. >> 15. and how old are you? >> 30. kenneth forton had driven about two hours to meet a teenage girl. he was a construction worker and he talked about things like tying a girl up. other very explicit sexual acts. it's okay for a 30-year-old man to come to a home where a 15-year-old girl is alone, why? because i'd really rather not. >> i guess why? >> i guess it's really rather not. >> you would rather not what? >> no, it is not okay. >> what were you going to do once you met? >> just talk. just talk? there's a lot of talk going on here. you get very specific about some of the sexual things you want to

do to her. you ask if she's tried anal yet. she says, no, that would hurt. you say use lubrication. that's mighty considerate of you. what were you thinking about here? help me out. help me understand what's going on here. if you don't talk to me, i can't understand. >> sir, i'm just trying to meet people. i moved out here not too long ago. i'm just trying to meet people. >> "can i tie you up"? did you bring a rope with you tonight? >> i have a rope in my car. >> you have rope in your car? >> yes. for my job. >> for your job. >> yes. i also have a bunch of tools back there. >> i asked him about some of the things he said online. then he starts to open up. and then we find out that, in fact, he did bring rope. he did bring duct tape. he brought all those things he talked about in sexual acts online with this teenage girl.

you talk about using the rope in various sex acts, with this 15-year-old girl. what would have happened if a 15-year-old girl was here and i wasn't? >> same thing that's happening now. just talking. >> just talking. >> you see why that's very difficult to believe based on this chat. >> yes, i do. that's the god's honest truth, though. >> why should i believe that? >> because i have a 6-year-old daughter that i'm trying to see. >> you have a 6-year-old daughter? >> yes. >> how would you feel if a stranger came into your home -- >> i would hate it. i'd hate it. >> you could get upset with some of these guys. but i'm not there to do that. i'm there to figure out what

these guys were going to do and what was going on in their mind, and i think by understanding what goes on in the mind of a potential predator, you can better understand how to protect kids when they go online. sounds like you're encouraging her to do something she's not comfortable doing. read that from those marks right there, out loud. >> "can i see you naked?" >> go on. >> on friday? yeah. what do i get out of it? pleasure. >> those are your words. right? >> yes, sir. >> so why should i believe that you didn't come here to have sex with this girl? >> because that's not my intention. i swear on my daughter. that i was just planning on coming over here to talk. >> did you bring marijuana? >> no. >> are you sure? >> uh-huh.

>> did you bring condoms with you? >> no. >> no. not in your car? >> no. >> do you watch television? >> rarely. >> i'm chris hansen with "dateline nbc." and we're doing a story on adults who try to meet with kids on the internet. if there is anything else you want to say, we'd like to hear it. if not, you're free to walk out the door you came in. >> get down! >> on the ground! >> get down now! >> police when they searched his truck found duct tape, rope, condoms. could those things have been in his trunk because of his job? possible. but when you consider in his chat that he talks about using them with this teenage girl, you have to wonder what was going to happen if we weren't there and a teenage girl was. when i asked foron about what he brought, he denied having, you know, condoms or drugs. as it turned out, he did have drugs and condoms. >> i'm sorry. >> i thought they took that stuff off. >> in florida, we were able to

videotape each part of the process from when the guy showed up at our house, to the arrest, we had cameras at the processing center, then we had cameras in the court. >> kenneth forton, you're charged with lascivious battery on a minor up to 15 years of age. there's probable cause on all charges and there's a $40,000 bond. >> i was going to hang out. i felt like i'd be more of a big brother than anything. >> big brother? so you're coming over to be a mentor? ♪ home of the brave. ♪ it's where fear goes unwelcomed... ♪ and certain men... find a way to rise above. this is the land of giants. ♪

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turn in the driveway. turn in the driveway. the lights are still on. he's sitting in his car in the driveway. sitting in his car in the

driveway. del, he's in front in a convertible. he's coming for a boy. del's doing it. he's on the phone with him right now. del will talk to him. >> in ft. myers, we had some guys in their 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, guys in their 60s. so ryan mcintosh fell into that mid-20s category. someone who admitted that online that they were looking for a liaison talking to a teenage boy who had come out as being gay. offered to help him through that process. >> there he is. all right. >> watch tv or something. i'll be right out. all right? >> cool. >> in ft. myers, del would play the role of the male decoy. del is a contributor with perverted justice.

she's one of the most senior people there. she has a number of roles. she helps coordinate the investigation. she also acts as a decoy. both on the phone and, if needed, in person. why don't you make yourself at home here? have a seat. what's going on? >> not much. how are you. >> good. how are you? >> good. >> what's going on here? >> hang out. >> how old is he? >> 14. >> how old are you? >> 23. >> why do you think it's appropriate for you as a

23-year-old to come here to hang out with a 14-year-old? >> i was just coming to hang out. >> coming to hang out. you had a pretty lengthy conversation with him. >> several times i did. >> when i was growing up, my parents would say don't talk to strangers. don't take rides from strangers. that's still good advice. but it's not enough today. as we see with ryan mcintosh, the potential predator uses this grooming as a way to gain the child's confidence. and after a period of weeks, talking to this potential predator, the child no longer sees them as a stranger. you know it's against the law to solicit somebody who is underage for sex on the internet. >> yes, sir. >> which was pretty much what was going on here. >> not tonight. i didn't think i was. >> you didn't have that conversation with this boy who said he was 14? >> i said i didn't have it tonight. >> you didn't have it tonight? ryan in the very last

conversation before he shows up at the house, he sort of retreats. he's more cautious. he's more about, well, let's see how it goes. we can hang out. he leaves it open. i think when we see this, we see someone who might be suspicious about walking in to an investigation. you talk about penis size. whether he has pubic hair. >> mm-hmm. >> you say you're horny. you say you're masturbating while you're talking to him. you talk about hooking up and you say if you don't tell anybody, you suck my [ bleep ]. >> i said that? >> then you say, "i don't want to go to jail." do you recall that? >> i'm sure i said that. >> the reality is once that solicitation is made, even if it is earlier. a crime was made. >> i was going to hang out. i felt like i was being more of

a big brother than anything. >> a big brother? >> yes. >> so you were coming over to be a mentor? >> in a way, yes. i'm sure you've heard that 25 times. >> 20 billion and one counting tonight. >> i'm not disagreeing. i'm sure you hear it from everybody. no, i had no intention of having sex with him tonight. i like to educate other people and let them know what it's really like and what it's not like and that they don't have to because they're an only child and they have a big brother, big sister, whatever the case may be. >> here's the thing. most people would say there is nothing wrong with helping somebody come to terms with who they are, right? >> mm-hmm. >> the issue here is not gay or straight. >> right. >> the issue here is adult/child. so why didn't the chat on the internet reflect what you're telling me now? >> i was going to come out and hang out and see what he's like. >> mcintosh is pretty nonchalant about the whole thing. i don't know whether that's because he thought he had covered himself in the latest chat. maybe he just came to terms with the realization that he knew what was going to happen next. well, i've got to tell you, i'm chris hansen with "dateline nbc." >> i know. >> you know? have you seen previous ones? >> i have. >> what was your impression of the earlier stories? >> nothing.

they were good coverage. >> good coverage. >> they were good coverage. >> probably the second or third time that had happened. and you know, it kind of blew me away. here's a guy who is caught in the investigation, who is complimenting us on the investigation. so it's almost like in his mind he's saying, those other guys are bad guys. they deserved it, but me, it is unfortunate that i surfaced in this. but i wasn't really going to do anybody any harm. obviously, you're free to walk ot the door. >> thank you. i'm going to walk out and they're going to cuff me? >> that's not up to me. >> i know, yes. all right. thank you. >> when he left, he knew what was going to happen. he walked out the back door and just kind of waited for the police to get there. >> get down! >> he didn't resist in any way. they arrested him and took him away to processing. >> ryan mcintosh, you're charged with attempted lewd and lascivious battery on a victim 12 years of age up to 15 years of age. and obscene use of a computer to

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the guy is in the driveway for those of you who have the dark alley and don't see this. >> most of the guys you see them drive by and slow down and look at the address and continue on. sometimes they'll pass the house two or three times and park down the street and check it out and look for any suspicious activity. and finally see these guys pull up in front of the house or walk from where it gives you a sense as to the kind of person you're going to they park their car. be talking to in just a couple minutes. >> hey, come on in! >> call him again.

call him again. >> come in here. i just made some cookies but i got chocolate on my shirt. so i have to change real quick. >> he closed the first door. he's real nervous. >> part of them knows this is bad thing to do. many of them have driven hours to get there and have had to have second thoughts along the way. so it's this mixture of emotions. there's an adrenaline rush. >> where are you? >> i'm changing my shirt quick because i got chocolate on it. just take a seat. i'll be right there. i made you some cookies. did you bring me my drinks? >> can you come out? >> yeah.

i'll be right there. i just got to change. take a seat. >> why don't you do me a favor and come on in. would you bring your stuff in? bring that and grab your bag and come on in here, please. come on in. why don't you have a seat in the chair there, please. >> how are you, sir? >> how are you? >> nice to meet you. >> nice to see you. what have we got here? >> a rose. >> who is the rose for? >> for lanny. >> for lanny. based upon his chat, rudy was being very romantic. in some ways, if it hadn't been an underage girl, you would have considered it kind of a sweet courtship. the problem is, you know, that sweet chat turned sexually explicit and it occurred with somebody who said they were underage. and in florida, that's against the law. you brought a rose, alcohol and some condoms. what does that add up to? >> i'm sorry? >> i'm sorry. >> i don't know, sir. you don't know. >> i thought something else. >> you thought what?

>> that i was going to have fun and to meet a girl. >> have fun. what kind of fun? >> you know, party and, you know, drink. >> party, drink, sex. >> yes, sir. >> rudy is one of those guys who finally just said i'm not going to try to trip you around anymore. this is what i was doing. i know it was wrong. i justified it by saying this to myself. yeah, so what's going to happen next? it's almost like, okay, i admitted this. let's get the rest of this over as quick as possible. >> i know if something would happen and it did, i would get in trouble because i'm married. >> you're married? >> yes, sir. my wife is like, oh, no, you cannot do nothing. and this and that. she doesn't let me have friends. right? i spent three years with her already. >> she's pretty tough on you. >> yeah. >> she doesn't let you go out and have any fun with your buddies or nothing like that. >> nothing like that. >> the marriage is not rock

solid. >> yeah, the thing is that i'm still trying. i really love her. >> rudy was being honest. he was having a tough go in his marriage. that's why he said that he was pursuing this sexual liaison. what do you think she would say if she knew you were coming here to have sex with a 14-year-old girl? >> she would kill me. whew, i don't want to think about it. she would kill me. yes, sir. i will get a divorce. her mom, her aunt, her dad, you know how many -- her dad has ten brothers. >> ten brothers. >> they will kill me. >> what do you think should happen to you for coming here tonight? >> go to jail, i guess. >> go to jail. do you think you deserve that? rudy raised the specter of this being "dateline nbc" in his conversation.

he later said that he had actually seen one of our investigations. but i don't think he got it, you know, the moment he walked into the house. you say "this may be a trap. i've seen that on tv." >> yeah. >> what did you see on tv exactly? >> in the news, actually, because people get like arrested because of chatting with underage girls. >> right. so you saw it on "dateline nbc"? >> yeah. the news. i didn't think it would happen. >> i think he started to catch on toward the end of the conversation. but i don't think he truly realized who i was until i said -- i'm chris hansen with "dateline nbc." we're doing a story on adults who try to meet underage kids on the internet. and everything you've said and done here tonight has been recorded. now, if there's anything else you would like to tell us, we would like to hear it. >> that young people like me shouldn't be doing this stuff. what you see in the news is real and it's happening to me and i'm a real -- i'm a good guy, and i just made a mistake.

>> i think in this case, he truly was sorry. whether he was sorry for what he did or sorry because he got caught and had to face the wrath of his in-laws, i don't know, but i think in his mind when he made that apology, he was going to walk out of there. well, that's not what was going to happen and i'm a good guy and i just made a mistake. >> i think that in this case, he truly was sorry. now whether he was sorry for what he did or sorry because he got caught and had to face the wrath of his in-laws, i don't know. but i think in his mind, when he made that apology, he was going to walk out of there. well, that's not what was going to happen. >> on the ground, on the ground, on the ground. >> in florida, police department's opinion, the laws surrounding carrying concealed weapons are fairly loose by national standards. >> anything on you?

>> no, sir. >> anything sharp in your pockets? >> anything we need to know about? >> no, sir. >> concerned that one of these guys could have been carrying a weapon so they wanted to take them down quickly so they acted quickly and aggressively to make the arrests. >> marvin, you're naked. you want the girl to have sex with a cat and use whip cream. explain that. back from rough economic times. employees are being forced to do more with less. and the need for capable leaders is greater than ever. when you see these problems do you take a step back, or do you want to dive right in? with a degree in business from capella university, you'll have the knowledge to go further in your career than you ever thought possible. let's get started at capella.edu

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now back to "predator raw." at the top of the hour "tall hot blond." >> hold on, stays. he's calling right now. >> hello? >> yeah, yeah. the back door. >> he's coming around. >> yeah, just come on inside. right inside the door is a laundry room. i'm going to find the cat. just strip in there and i'll be in with the cat. all right? whatever you want. totally naked. that was the deal. right? >> this guy's chat was really, really bad. and the decoy was a little bit playful. and he made this request involving a cat and cool whip and a sex act with the girl. and she sort of said, well, i'll consider that if you'll walk into the house naked.

>> all right. he's walking into the living room. emily, call out. >> hey, take a seat at the table. i'll be right there. i'm getting ready with my cat. >> where are you? >> well, just take a seat. have a cookie. i made them. they'll go with the cool whip. i have a little surprise. >> the decoy said i'll be in. before i can get past her and open the door, he has hot footed it across the living room and has his hand on the door. i open the door. he's stunned, i'm stunned. you want to explain yourself? grab that towel right there, please. wrap it around yourself. please sit in that stool. what are you doing? >> making a mistake. >> making a mistake. you drive into somebody's driveway, walk into their house, strip naked and walk in where you think there's a 14-year-old girl home alone. what is going on in your mind? >> i don't know. >> you don't know? >> stupid mistakes. >> stupid mistakes.

now, what do you think would have happened, marvin, had i not been here and had there actually been a 14-year-old girl in that next room? what would have happened after you walked in there naked? >> i guess something probably would have happened. >> something like what? >> something along the sexual lines. >> you would have had sex with a 14-year-old girl? >> i'm not sure if i would have done that. >> marvin, your naked. >> i wouldn't have gone all the way. i wasn't -- >> you went all the way when you took your clothes off just about. he's one of those guys who is very short with his answers. he's not quite sure where this is all going. finally, i say to him, what was your plan with the cat? >> i don't know. i was stupid with that. >> the cat? the whipped cream? you want the girl to have sex

with a cat and use whipped cream? explain that. >> i was just being stupid. >> i can only imagine what would have been going on in this house had i not been here. am i wrong to think that? >> no, you're not. >> what's going to be happening if i'm not here? you're naked. there's a 14-year-old girl. you're chasing a cat around. you have cool whip. you want this girl to do some sex act with a cat and you'll have sex with her? is that accurate? >> would it be okay if i asked for some water, please? >> some water? these are serious investigations, but undeniably there are moments that border on the amazing. the guy asked for water. i thought at that point the situation was under control. so i got him some water. all that running around naked has you pretty dried out then? >> yeah. >> have you ever met any young girls online?

first time. >> yeah, this is first time. it will never happen again. i can tell you that right now. >> he started to giggle because i can tell you that for now. he thought it was funny and partly because he was just really, really nervous having just been caught and now being confronted. so it's funny? >> no, i'm just thinking to myself that this would never happen again. this is not something, no, this is not right. >> you're promising right now you'll never -- >> i'm promising myself. >> hook up with a 14-year-old girl online and tell her to have sex with her cat and walk into her house naked. >> not even under 19. no. i promise that to myself. not even to you. just to -- this is not good. >> there's something else you need to know. i'm chris hansen with "dateline nbc." we're doing a story on adults who try to meet teens online. >> yes, sir. >> now, if there's anything else you'd like to say about this predicament you're now in, we'd love to hear it.

>> just, trust me, it will never happen again. >> if there's nothing else you have to say, you're free to walk out that door where you stripped naked and walked in. you can keep the towel. he gets up and he sort of tries to hold it around him. i mean, that's a bad situation to be in. first of all, you got caught soliciting a teen online. second, you walk in naked, third, you're going to be on network television, now you're heading outside and you have to put your clothes back on and go back out there and you don't know what you're going to face. and you get arrested. that's bad. >> are you here on business or what? >> no, just being stupid. >> being stupid. >> yes. >> do you have asthma? >> asthma, yeah. emphysema and a quintuple heart bypass. >> you still smoke? [ woman ] dear chex cereal, you've done the impossible.

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go ahead and go wave. >> i got to finish getting changed. >> stay back far enough. if you get within a foot they may actually tell you're not a boy. >> the more we've done these investigations, the fewer times we've seen guys turn tail and run. part of it is they want their chance to try to spin their story. >> he's a lot older than 40. the guy is, like, 60.

bottom step. in the laundry room. closing the laundry room door. >> i'll be right out. i have to finish getting changed, all right? >> huh? >> i got to finish getting changed. come in. i made some chocolate chip cookies. >> campbell thought he was talking to a 14-year-old boy who said he was gay. campbell said that he was much younger than his 61 years. bragged about his ability to perform certain sex acts. >> where are you? >> i'm right here. i got to get changed. hang out for a while. >> totally nervous about. >> call him back, del. tell him to sit down. >> where you at? >> standing here. >> i'm over here.

my bedroom is downstairs, man. >> where you at? >> i'm right here. i have to finish getting changed. sorry, man. didn't mean to confuse you. >> you're moving quick there. why don't you have a seat over there at the stool. where were you headed there? >> huh? >> where were you headed? >> just talking. >> talking with who? >> tony. >> tony. how old is tony? >> 14. >> 14. and how old are you? >> i'm 49. >> 49? >> what's the problem here? >> you don't see a problem? >> no. we were just going to be talking today. >> you were just going to be talking? >> yeah. >> let's start with your name? >> tom. >> tom. what's your last name? >> campbell. >> campbell. and how old are you? >> i'm 61. >> you're 61. so you're not in your 40s. >> no. >> i just want you to calm down. do you want some water or something? >> no. >> he starts to get short of

breath. i ask him, are you okay? what do you need? he needed his inhaler. he actually uses the inhaler and i said, do you want some water? do you need anything? this is a serious investigation but at the same time the guy is sick or has a problem, we'll make sure he gets help. do you have asthma? >> asthma and emphysema. i had a quintuple heart bypass. >> do you still smoke? >> some. it's hard to get rid of. >> things calm down. he ends up being okay. it's one of those examples of the unpredictable things that can happen during one of these investigations. >> i have a lot of friends, and they are very uncomfortable when they talk about being gay or they're not sure they're gay, and that was mainly the situation. i was in that same boat. i was married. i have kids. and they're grown now. and all i was going to do was arrange to meet him, talk with him, because he said he had some problems. >> how were you going to coach him? >> mainly, if nothing else, to help him see that it's not really a shameful situation that it was when i was younger.

>> you were here to mentor this boy? >> if i could, yeah. you know. i don't mind helping. >> and did that mentoring process include having sex with him? >> oh, no. but that's not how the conversation went on the internet, is it? >> i don't know. >> so many times people use the word "pedophile" and the word "pedophile" has a distinct definition that involves younger kids prepuberty. that's typically not what we're dealing with in these investigations. these guys are predators or potential predators. depends on what they've done in the past. what we mean by predator is that this is an adult who knowingly goes into a chat room and cajoles, grooms, befriends somebody who is unmistakably underage into a sexual liaison. you say "i love to suck a young

man. " >> okay. >> do you recall that? >> i believe so. >> you believe so? i have the whole transcript here. >> you do? >> yeah. yep "and from what most say it's the best they've had." the real compliment is when they keep coming back for more. you'd absolutely love it." "i'm in my 40s but guarantee that i'm not some old guy wanting to perv a young boy. i just enjoy being with younger ones and they seem to enjoy me. so there's nothing to worry about as far as i'm concerned as long as you're okay with it." well, the reality is you are older. >> mm-hmm. >> and what's going on here seems pretty pervy, doesn't it? >> it does. >> a lot of these guys lie about their age and when i confront them with it, that's typically when they start admitting the other things that they were intent about doing. you were being open and honest about who you were and what you were.

>> i think so. >> how come you said your name was john and that you were in your 40s when you're really tom and 61 years old? >> many people when you're on the internet won't talk to anybody if they're in their 50s. >> yeah, but that runs against what you told me just a few moments ago. if you're going to be honest and mentoring why not say, look, i'm a guy, i'm 61. i had a real tough time dealing with being gay years ago. let me help you to develop. to be a good guy. you didn't say that. what you said was "i'm in my 40s, i have a different name, and i want to meet you." >> and you're probably right. but also -- >> i'm not probably right. i am right. >> i'm still extremely nervous and the only reason i'm extremely nervous is because i have no idea who you are. >> you don't have any idea who i am? >> no.

>> would you like to know? >> yes. >> i'm chris hansen with "dateline nbc" and we're doing a story on adults who meet teens on the internet. and if there's anything else you would like to say to me about why you're here today, i would like to hear it. if not, clearly you're free to walk out that door. >> what do we have here? >> walk out the same door you came in. straight back. i tell campbell who i am and what we're doing. he leaves like the others and is immediately arrested and taken into custody and processed. for a few seconds but if you're not drinking it, it's going to get dry again. i recommend biotene. all the biotene products

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car in the driveway. chevy something. we have no idea. but we think this guy is way early. >> in every investigation, invariably there's a guy that gives us a different vehicle and that causes some confusion. we have to figure out who is this guy? >> we're not sure. one of our servers is down right now. we're doing the best -- we're trying to figure it out. >> when calvin lee greer shows up, we're confused because he mentioned a different vehicle

that he would be driving from the one he actually showed up in. this triggered this scramble behind the scenes as to if it's a different car, it must be a different person. i'm going through all of the transcripts. okay. who has got this other vehicle? i can't find anybody. >> it's lee greer. our 1:00. we believe. he's on the back door. he's opening the door. he's supposed to bring lunch and booze. >> come on in. did you bring the food? >> yep. >> okay. great. what did you bring? >> double cheeseburger with no pickles. >> awesome. i made chocolate chip cookies, too, but i actually just got some on my shirt. i'm going to change my shirt quick.

>> i've some fries. they might be cold. it took me a while to find this place. >> that's all right. fries are always good. >> they didn't give me my sodas i ordered so -- >> take a seat. i'll be right there. >> okay. >> so no cookies for you? what's going on? >> not much. who are you? >> who are you? >> i'm lee. >> some of these guys want to know right away who i am. my typical response is i'll get to that in a minute. but, you know, first, i want to ask you some questions. because if i say right away who i am, i oftentimes won't get the most honest response. lee, what are you doing here?

>> come to visit a friend off the net, i thought. >> a friend off the net. >> yes. >> and who is that friend? >> name is sammy, i believe. >> the name is what? >> sammy. >> samantha? >> samantha. >> how old is samantha? >> i thought she was 18 or older. >> 18 or older. what made you think she was 18 or older? >> just by the way she talked and acted and -- >> a lot of these guys will do anything they can to try to wangle the way out of the predicament they're in including saying, hey, look, i thought the girl was 18. and they don't know that i've already got the transcript where it says a.s.l., age, sex, location. truth is always the best here. so why don't you start over again and tell me how old did she say she was in the conversation? >> 13. >> 13. >> yes, sir.

>> how old are you? >> 31. >> you thought it was okay for a 31-year-old man to come to a home where a 13-year-old girl was alone because why exactly? >> i didn't. >> then why did you do it? >> stupidity. honestly. i was -- pure stupidity. >> i think there's a good chance that greer is in that one group of these guys who probably wouldn't be involved in this sort of activity had it not been for the addictive nature of the internet. the access to chat rooms and porn, and i think guys develop this compulsive behavior over a period of time and suddenly nothing will satisfy them but this face-to-face meeting. you sent her that picture. >> yes. >> right? what does that say about your intent? >> stupidity. honestly. >> stupidity. >> right. and i told her there were dirty pictures. and she wanted to see them. so i showed them. >> a 15-year-old girl says it's okay, it's okay for you to do it? >> no, it's not, sir. >> are you married? >> yes, sir. >> do you have children? >> no, sir. >> how's this going to go over at home? >> not good.

>> i would really, really, really like for it not to go home. really, sir. >> did you bring condoms today? >> there's some in the car. >> just happen to be some in the glove box? >> no, i always have condoms anywhere i go because of diseases. i always have them in my car with me. >> is that your personal car? >> no, sir. that's a rental car. >> he was in the communications business, and he was on assignment in florida. sort of gave me the sense that he was just bored. cruising the internet. and decided to chat up this young girl. you had planned on staying the night? >> no. i was going to get a room tonight. that's what i told her on the net. i consider staying the night with her, but i wouldn't. >> there's talk about spending the night here. >> yes, i know that. >> did you pack a bag?

>> no, sir. i got one deal that has my underwear and a new shirt and i always wear my shorts twice because they're not dirty. i got my p.j.s. >> sounds like you're all set, food, condoms, sleepwear, ready to spend the night. >> i know what it sounds like. >> well, there's a few things that you need to know. one is that i'm chris hansen with "dateline nbc." we're doing a story about adults meeting teens on the internet. everything you've done since you pulled up here has been recorded on camera. if there's anything you would like to tell us further, we would like to hear it. if not, you're obviously free to walk out that door you came in. he knew he had gotten nabbed. he basically admitted it was wrong. when he found out that he had been caught in a "dateline" investigation, he was more worried about the exposure. lee, you're free to go. you can take your -- >> is my face going to be shown on tv? >> we haven't made any final decisions as to who's going to be in the story and who is not. >> i don't want my wife to find out. >> i understand, but i'm be honest with you, we haven't decided. >> i thank you all. sorry again. >> time after time, guys have tried to say, can we talk off camera? turn the cameras off. i want to talk. my response is, look, we're doing an investigative story. we haven't decided exactly who

is going to be in yet. >> get on the ground! >> please, sir. please, sir. >> get on the ground. let me see your hands. >> oh, lord. oh, lord. >> i think that's are among the most compelling spontaneous interviews i've ever done because some of these guys have been engaging in this online activity for a long time, have known they needed help, have not known where to go to get it and as bad a spot as they're in, they know that they're going to have a shot at getting some help.